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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:58 pm
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Exactly my point, Mike. You have some of the most expensive, beautiful fish I have seen. With you being a friend of mine, I do not want to be the guy talking to you after your heater stuck on and cooked your fish overnight. It usually doesn't happen....
but it can.
LOL, I hope not. But I think you talked me into it.
Hey Andrew, can I borrow another heater?
LMAO, I hopefully have another 1 lieing aroung somewhere
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:59 pm
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You know what I think is cool? You're both very advanced aquarists yet a little opposed on this issue. All one has to do is look at your tanks and your fish and one knows both of you are keeping fish at the expert level. The reason I think it's cool is because we have pretty strong opinions (yeah, me too, guilty as charged) AND those opinions are based on success and experience. I encourage healthy debate on the finer points of fishkeeping and I truly think that this discussion was a healthy debate. Sorry about the "don't yell at me" remark, it was tongue in cheek and meant as a joke. You guys have great tanks and great fish and do the hobby credit.
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wooz29 Board Mbuna
Joined: 24 Jun 2006 Posts: 156 Location: Council Bluffs
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:04 am
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mpp wrote:
You know what I think is cool? You're both very advanced aquarists yet a little opposed on this issue. All one has to do is look at your tanks and your fish and one knows both of you are keeping fish at the expert level. The reason I think it's cool is because we have pretty strong opinions (yeah, me too, guilty as charged) AND those opinions are based on success and experience. I encourage healthy debate on the finer points of fishkeeping and I truly think that this discussion was a healthy debate. Sorry about the "don't yell at me" remark, it was tongue in cheek and meant as a joke. You guys have great tanks and great fish and do the hobby credit.
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Speaking of a healthy debate, I was on a different fish board today and someone was actually suggesting cycling with fish. It was all I could do to not chime in and chastise them. I was mad.
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Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 749 Location: Omaha, NE
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:07 am
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mpp wrote:
You know what I think is cool? You're both very advanced aquarists yet a little opposed on this issue. All one has to do is look at your tanks and your fish and one knows both of you are keeping fish at the expert level. The reason I think it's cool is because we have pretty strong opinions (yeah, me too, guilty as charged) AND those opinions are based on success and experience. I encourage healthy debate on the finer points of fishkeeping and I truly think that this discussion was a healthy debate. Sorry about the "don't yell at me" remark, it was tongue in cheek and meant as a joke. You guys have great tanks and great fish and do the hobby credit.
all the best
mike
LOL Mike No problems. I have seen some very heated arguements on some forums before, Not my point to ever start 1 but I will hold my head between my tail on this 1. At least for my 240 gallon. Not changing my ways on my 125 tho. Now just to find that extra heater
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:08 am
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mpp wrote:
You know what I think is cool? You're both very advanced aquarists yet a little opposed on this issue. All one has to do is look at your tanks and your fish and one knows both of you are keeping fish at the expert level. The reason I think it's cool is because we have pretty strong opinions (yeah, me too, guilty as charged) AND those opinions are based on success and experience. I encourage healthy debate on the finer points of fishkeeping and I truly think that this discussion was a healthy debate. Sorry about the "don't yell at me" remark, it was tongue in cheek and meant as a joke. You guys have great tanks and great fish and do the hobby credit.
all the best
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Speaking of a healthy debate, I was on a different fish board today and someone was actually suggesting cycling with fish. It was all I could do to not chime in and chastise them. I was mad.
Alot of people do that now. I've heard of it happening more for aggressive tanks. They use smaller fish that will get eaten as feeders later down the road. I havent done it myself but it does happen
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wooz29 Board Mbuna
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:17 am
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I dont agree with it but hey, there are alot of things I dont agree with. I just keep my mouth shut
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:52 am
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Can I ask why you shouldn't? I had a very reputable local fish person tell me to burry a dead fish under the gravel to cycle a tank. (I didn't do it)
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:56 am
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Can I ask why you shouldn't? I had a very reputable local fish person tell me to burry a dead fish under the gravel to cycle a tank. (I didn't do it)
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No problem IMO. I just started my tank up the normal way. I did try some Bio-Spiria and then setting up the other tanks I used rocks and filter media that was already good to go and it seemed to work out just fine for me.
But like I said eariler. I've heard of several people using them. Sorry
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clunkster Topical Tropical Royalty
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:10 am
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Can I ask why you shouldn't? I had a very reputable local fish person tell me to burry a dead fish under the gravel to cycle a tank. (I didn't do it)
Haley
i dont like to cycle a tank with fish, read this it might just show why its not such a good idea
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if you wanna add somthing dead try using prawns
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:31 am
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Great article Bhoy!
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glad you like it, personaly i thought it was a good read and thought i would share it with you all, as it makes you think
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:31 pm
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All of my "feeder" fish are cheap, because they all have something wrong with them already.(stunted, ect.) I think that it was a good article, but I always tell my customers that same info in beginners terms. If they choose to stock their tank against my advise, I don't repalce their fish when they come back crying to me, because they didn't want to look at an empty tank for a month. Good info, but I think that it was written by Fish Rights Activists. HeeHee... Oh, a new club we could start? LoL
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I thought that maybe you guys new something secret that I didn't know about feeders. Thanks for the info.
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:57 pm
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Hopefully, you can come in on Sat. and we can talk about tanks. I have all of the tanks on sale thru July. 120g, 125g, 180g. 40%off I think. We are passing that onto the customers this month.
Haley
How much are the black 125's running now? Standard tank not drilled, are they All-Glass?
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:46 pm
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I haven't been at work so I don't know off the top of my head. Call me on Fri. or Sat. and I will figure it out for you.
Yep, All Glass and some Perfecto.
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I haven't been at work so I don't know off the top of my head. Call me on Fri. or Sat. and I will figure it out for you.
Yep, All Glass and some Perfecto.
No problems. I called eariler and they said you werent there and they had no idea of the prices
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