Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Now Kansas City
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:28 pm
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Hi,
I thought I would give you guys a shot at helping me out. I have had a sick blood parrot for a while, and I am open to suggestions about his illness. Basically, he lives in a tank with many other parrots. He developed a bloated stomach area region, a while back, as well as his anal tube sticking out, and his color is pale. None of the other parrots have experienced any of the similar symptoms. I just wrote it off as a swim bladder disease issue, since most of the parrots die that way, since their bladders are deformed. Is this parrot doomed, or have you guys heard or seen fish bloated in their stomach/bladder area (with their tube being exposed as a result)? He sits at the bottom all day, and doesn't really eat. From time-to-time he swims around, but nothing similar to the other parrots.
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MelonHead Site Admin
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 989 Location: Omaha, NE USA
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:37 pm
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Hey Parrot!
Good to see you here. Can you post a pic? It would just be a blind guess otherwise.
Are you sure it's the anal tube? What color is it?
Please get us a pic!
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mbovinet Site Admin
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 753 Location: Omaha, NE
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:57 pm
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What color was it's poo last time you seen it?
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parrotlover77 Community Tanker
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Now Kansas City
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:32 pm
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The tube coming out of the anus region is white, and looks like the breeding tube (but it is not breeding right now). The parrot is whitish and bloated, with the white tube out. I couldn't take photo's last night. I will try tonight.
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parrotlover77 Community Tanker
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Now Kansas City
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:43 pm
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Here are the photos. Look at the tube on the first photo. When they laid eggs before, it didn't look like this. The parrot has a bloated looking belly on the second photo. This parrot is very pale (note the healthy colored parrot in the background). Any suggestions are welcome.
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parrotlover77 Community Tanker
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Now Kansas City
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:29 am
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I just realized my fish has.......................dropsy........ !!!
Do you all agree?? Its scales aren't sticking out, but dropsy is all I could think of, from my research. If you agree my diagnoses...... I am assuming the parrot is a goner, and in a lot of pain. Should I put it out of its misery?
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clunkster Topical Tropical Royalty
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 1012 Location: the dark side of the tank ok then its dewsbury west yorkshire U.K.
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:44 am
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parrotlover77 wrote:
I just realized my fish has.......................dropsy........ !!!
Do you all agree?? Its scales aren't sticking out, but dropsy is all I could think of, from my research. If you agree my diagnoses...... I am assuming the parrot is a goner, and in a lot of pain. Should I put it out of its misery?
Hi parrotlover77, must admit when i started reading your post that was my imediate thought, now i know that protruding scales are a symptom but are not allways present The following is from a post that i have else wheres on this board
DROPSY - MALAWI BLOAT Caused by: Bacterial and/or viral infections as well as metabolic or nutritional disorders
Obvious Symptoms: Fish resembles a pine cone I.e. the fish has protruding scales, swollen belly, ulcers, pop eyed and a reddening at the vent or base of fins.
Treatment and Control: Due to the uncertainty of the cause of this disease, treatment can be very hit and miss. The best way is to remove any affected individuals to a hospital/quarantine tank with ideal water conditions and try bathing the affected fish in Epsom salts. In very bad cases it is better to euthanize the fish due to organ failure.
Hope this helps you out
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parrotlover77 Community Tanker
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Now Kansas City
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:27 pm
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Thanks. I will try to set up a hospital tank, and see what happens. Do I just put in a ton of salt in??..... I really don't want to dip him, since I never physically touch my fish. I can see myself freaking out and dropping him, and then dies on the floor.
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clunkster Topical Tropical Royalty
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 1012 Location: the dark side of the tank ok then its dewsbury west yorkshire U.K.
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:42 pm
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The epsome salts solution is best used as a bath dip and then put the afected fish in a hospital tank with ideal water quality and feed well, you can also add one of the many antibiotic meds that are available
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parrotlover77 Community Tanker
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:45 am
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RIP...... the parrot is dead. It died a few day ago, right before I was going to put it in the medical tank. Oh well. The parrot had a good life.
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clunkster Topical Tropical Royalty
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 1012 Location: the dark side of the tank ok then its dewsbury west yorkshire U.K.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:27 pm
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Sorry to hear that Hope all your other fish in the same tank are ok
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parrotlover77 Community Tanker
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Now Kansas City
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:05 pm
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All the other fish are perfect. My large tank is now a parrot tank (but has catfish, my eel, and plecos as well). My parrots are all perfectly healthy. I think the parrot either had dropsy OR after further investigation, I might have killed the parrot by feeding it dried krill. I read that if you feed parrots dried krill, without soaking it, the krill can scratch and punction there insides and then they get bloated. I learned my lesson. I might end up giving all the krill to my red texas's out of precaution.
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